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Adulescens Verum Cupitor
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:31:02 PM(UTC)
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Geomagnetic reversal? Apocalypse? Spiritual Awakening? Galactic alignment? Aliens returning to earth? Nibiru collision? Solar Flares? Nothing?

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#2 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:05:34 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Adulescens Verum Cupitor Go to Quoted Post


Geomagnetic reversal? Apocalypse? Spiritual Awakening? Galactic alignment? Aliens returning to earth? Nibiru collision? Solar Flares? Nothing?



If we had data to back any of that up, we wouldn't be asking - we would know. My best guess, based on everything, is a galactic superwave ... lots of fun for everyone

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

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#3 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:07:55 PM(UTC)
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D. All of the above.


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D. All of the above.


"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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#4 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 6:07:06 PM(UTC)
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D. All of the above.



agreed

Whether you want it or not THEY are coming...PESTILENCE
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#8 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 11:37:11 PM(UTC)
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Consider it a galactic surprise. Or as the end of Warner Brothers cartoons would say..."That's all folks"!!
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:15:48 AM(UTC)
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Yes, them all, but the slowish build-up is well underway and the 2012 date is a simplistic soundbite / not the whole story.


As I understand it, the more active geophycial events really start to become manifest later this month and continue 'on and off' for a few years.


The Mayan Calendar ends in October this year - not in 2012.


Changes to humankind are also underway, and it seems that some kind of awakening will happen in early 2013. This may come as a NDE which everyone experiences.


After the next sunspot maxima we have a quiet period (the sun has a rest LOL) and there will be an ice age - hopefully nothing more than a 'mini' ice age as in the middle ages, not a full blown one.


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#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:53:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: simple simon Go to Quoted Post


The Mayan Calendar ends in October this year - not in 2012.



Where did you get that from?

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:10:21 AM(UTC)
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The Mayan Calendar ends in October this year - not in 2012.



Where did you get that from?



This is one of those back and forth arguments between the people in the field ... and one HAS TO disagree, and so the discussions rage.


http://www.atitlansol.co...ount-mayan-calendar.html


 


Calleman had also said: I simply assumed that the significant Mayan pyramids had been built in nine steps because they were symbolic of nine levels of creation ...




 


Well, if one can "assume" something in this subject, I can too. I say the 9-steps represent the time of the goddess arrival, and if Bolon Yokte is "arriving" ... then he / they are coming on the end of the calendar date. This is the same picture TPTB are fooling with (for them the great year).



"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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#12 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:14:51 PM(UTC)
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Besides, Calleman can't be right - Harold Camping seems to be back and his new date for world doom is a week before Calleman. 

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:43:21 PM(UTC)
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D. All of the above.



agreed



Nothing and the end of the world at the same time? I wanna see that happen!!

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#6 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 1:16:03 PM(UTC)
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D. All of the above.



agreed



Nothing and the end of the world at the same time? I wanna see that happen!!



 


okay........

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#13 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 6:16:24 AM(UTC)

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Overload of technology. To the point that others are not accepting it. It's happening already with the news that the rule for mandatory back-up cameras delayed because of a lot of people wishing it to be voluntary instead.

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#14 Posted : Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:25:56 PM(UTC)
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Hmm


Patrick Geryl and the possibility of a large solar event in December of this year.


http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/


This includes something called 'crustal displacement' where the surface land relocates elsewhere in relation to the mantle below. If it happens this would make the stars seem to be falling from heaven, as described in some religious texts.


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#15 Posted : Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:34:01 PM(UTC)
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You do realize that even if this stuff is right, it makes no difference ... you are still looking at the wrong picture.


Let me explain this with the newest piece of information I have. "Experiencers" are all labeled some version of crazy. I have had my experiences ongoing from 1955 to 2010 when it seems it was over. One of the things I could never do was get a psychological evaluation to see just how nutz I really was, if indeed I was nutz. I found out recently that someone I know on the net is a psychotherapist, and I asked him if he wanted to do and evaluation of me with regard to everything I have been through. He said yes, we did it, guess what - not nutz. I have sufficient data to back up everything, and not one piece of this came up as even remotely connected to fantasy. Hard data kicks ass - I rest my case.



"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:59:29 PM(UTC)
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You do realize that even if this stuff is right, it makes no difference ... you are still looking at the wrong picture.


Let me explain this with the newest piece of information I have. "Experiencers" are all labeled some version of crazy. I have had my experiences ongoing from 1955 to 2010 when it seems it was over. One of the things I could never do was get a psychological evaluation to see just how nutz I really was, if indeed I was nutz. I found out recently that someone I know on the net is a psychotherapist, and I asked him if he wanted to do and evaluation of me with regard to everything I have been through. He said yes, we did it, guess what - not nutz. I have sufficient data to back up everything, and not one piece of this came up as even remotely connected to fantasy. Hard data kicks ass - I rest my case.





 


Jim, of course you are not crazy - its just that like many of others you think differently. That said, to the elite, that makes you (and me) targets for being called crazy.


 


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re: the December superwave event, the linked website *might* offer another very different explanation.

http://www.revelacionesm...as.com/The%20Warning.htm

To me this sounds like what I think is called (in Christianity) "the illumination of the soul", although if it happens as described it will be for all people of all faiths - and none.

I am not going to even try and judge what people are saying may or may not happen when the galactic superwave passes us by. This is because I simply do not know.

However despite the (some) predictions of doom I do expect humanity to be around afterwards.



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#17 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:19:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: simple simon Go to Quoted Post
However despite the (some) predictions of doom I do expect humanity to be around afterwards.


You do realize that if this IS a superwave, the EMP alone will affect us like it never has before. If global electric shuts down, every nuclear power plant on the planet will shut down - and backup systems will either immediately fail, or eventually fail, depending on how much they depend on computers, how "shielded" they were, and how long the fuel lasts. Global melt downs (with no way to deal with them) are inevitable. There will be no food deliveries, no water, no medical help, no nothing; everything depends on electric and fuel. And then, the gravity wave will set off every volcano and earthquake that was about ready to go, adding to the picture. The only "humanity" that will survive will be those in the underground bunker cities that have allegedly been being built since when? The 50s? Who knows ...if this is a MAJOR event, they are going to be down there forever ... how long do you think the surface radiation alone is going to last?


All I know is, the picture I have called this event - the end of the road - and the projected picture of cause and effect possibilities would seem to agree. It was also very specific about the fact that we don't think correctly, we follow "dead end roads" of illogic - and - we don't even see THAT much. After looking at that picture for a few years, yeah, I can see why. In these forums, they are protected by a "group think" mentality, and when there is no protection from thoughts they don't want to see (like this group) - THEY LEAVE - they are off to find a mentally comfy place where they can live their delusions and be free of fear. Oh well, not my problem.

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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