logo
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Hearing Voices then Disappearing
7Vials
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:44:03 PM(UTC)
7Vials


Rank: Advanced Member

Medals: Theorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 664
Points: 1,843
Man
Location: Arizona

This is weird. I know we've talked about hearing voices in the past but not like these. Has anybody else ever heard of anything like this before? I eat plenty of meat so I guess this won't happen to me.


Found at: tasmaniantimes.com/index.php


On The Beach


IT IS something we all know; times are getting harsher. As a doctor, a man of science, I take no measure of the claims made by those with a more fundamental religiosity: that the four horsemen are riding. Nevertheless, global warming is allowing disease to spread rapidly, there is conflict over water, famine is ubiquitous and if one was inclined to such views then these clearly are three of the four.


What interests me are the people who are hearing the Voice. It begins as a susurration, like falling rain although with a rhythm, as if wave fronts of rain were rushing back and forth across a tin roof.


This is a common description, though others as often describe the Voice as beginning like the soft rumblings of distant thunder, waxing and waning rhythmically on the edge of perception. There exist no other descriptions of the start of the Voice.


What can we say about these people?  They are exceedingly average in life. Men and women, adults of all ages and walks of life. After interviews and a sifting of their lives, my colleagues and I have determined only one unifying factor: Not a single person who hears the Voice has a diet that includes the flesh of animals. There is one other thing unique to these people and this is the most enthralling; they are no longer with us.


From the descriptions of those who have heard we know that it is a singular voice, some who have heard call it, ‘the Voice’, why we who have not heard cannot say; and those who can are not telling. So how does the rumbling of thunder, the sound of rain, become the Voice? There are two main theories. The first and the one to which I conform, is that these people are hearing the sound of many conversations, a voice speaking to many individually at the same time and until they hear the voice speaking directly to them, all they are hearing is the sound of a room full of chatter or the rumble of talk from a distant hall. The second theory is that these people are, by some method, ‘tuning’ into the voice and the low rumble or high chatter are echoes or ‘scatter’ from the signal.  I disagree with this reading for various reasons that I shall not go into here.


What we do know, and what I have seen, is that this rain or thunder coalesces into a single voice and the person listening goes somewhere we do not know. Please do not misunderstand me, no one else but the person concerned can hear the Voice. They can describe what they are experiencing and here is an annoyance; it is common for those who attend their local doctor to be diagnosed with tinnitus and sent on their way, so we miss many of these people.


It must be extremely frustrating to hear a continuous rustling patter, or a rumbling like someone murmuring in your ear, but from a distance. When this becomes the Voice, it is transformatory. I have had the privilege of seeing this thrice, which is why I can make that assertion. Typically, we know that after about three months of the rain or thunder, the Voice appears. After three months of the noise, for it to clarify into the Voice lifts a stress, relieves a burden, an annoyance. More importantly, the Voice is apparently speaking a message, speaking directly to the person and something happens.


Again this is a frustration, not one person who has heard the Voice has ever told, or even hinted at, what the Voice is saying, what the message, or conversation, is. There is no indication if this is a discourse between them and the Voice or if they are only listening to instructions, learning, kennings, or words that speak directly to the soul. Then they go and we can never ask them again.


As I mentioned, I have seen this thrice. In the first instance, I was speaking with a woman in her home; for no reason I note that it was early winter, the air was crisp, cold and the view from her Mt Nelson abode more than I could afford, but she walked out of that house two days later. I was asking her to describe the patterning, or the beat, of the susurration. She was trying to frame an answer when she stopped, cocked her heard to the right and said, ‘Yes’. That is all. She looked at me and her demeanor had changed, it is difficult to describe but it sent a thrill through me. Her eyes had become pools of clearness and she seemed to read me, I felt that every movement I made, every word I spoke was a doorway for her to see into me, but she was full of love and calmness. I was transfixed and all I managed was to ask what had happened. Her only reply was, ‘I am hearing the Voice’, as if that said everything. She would answer no further questions and politely ushered me from her home. Two days later, she was gone, like the others.


The second was a man I interviewed last month in Glenorchy. He stopped speaking, and his eyes looked through me, in what I would call the ‘thousand yard stare’. He said two words, ‘I understand’, then stood and left the room. He has not been seen since. His look to me as he left, after he had spoken those two words, left me stunned. The peace and joy his eyes radiated and the depth of love in them literally shocked me, I do not have the words to describe the intensity of the gaze of this forklift driver. I have only met one other with such a gaze but I will not speak of them here.


This is the thing; everyone we know who has heard the Voice has gone. It can take hours, but no more than three days that we know so far. Some arrange their financials; others gift things to relatives and children. Some say nothing; others say they are going ‘away for a some time’. Then they vanish.


We do not know what the Voice says or how they vanish. The ones we know of go to popular places; shopping malls, department stores, markets. Surveillance images show them entering, say, Myers department store but they never leave. No search has ever found them. No analysis of camera footage has ever shown them leaving. Their cars are found where they were parked. However, some leave the car in the garage and walk, while others leave their wallets and mobile phones at home. Why crowded, public spaces? It seems that these areas are good places to blend in and lose any followers, as well, those around you are less observant, psychologically shutting out the crowd, you will remember the famous dancing gorilla video.


Therefore, somewhere, the people who have heard the Voice walk through a door, an opening. I think it is as mundane as that. Do they make the door? Does the Voice tell them where to find it? Does whatever the Voice is, make the opening for them? These are real people who hear an annoying sound that becomes a voice and then they vanish, in a clear and deliberate manner. They go somewhere after hearing a voice no one else does in these times of tension, scarcity, and suffering greater than any in history. The only thing that links them is being vegetarian, which led a colleague to remark, albeit ironically, ‘Wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat’.


Those of you who know me will know that I have been laid low, and been largely bedridden, by a severe influenza and bronchitis in the last two weeks. During a night sweat that drenched my pillow I had a dream. The question of the people who hear the Voice has consumed me and perhaps I was given an insight, perhaps a hint to assuage my fever, both literal and spiritual.


In my dream, or reality, I was in Melbourne. In Parliament Station during rush hour, a place I know well as it was my regular cross-connection to Monash University. The crowd was around me but distant, it seemed that that I was moving at a different pace, or rhythm, to them or they to me. At the knowing it seemed, or the prompting perhaps, of a voice I simply ‘turned’. Where I do not know, but I know I left here. In my dream, or reality, I stepped from the railway station onto a beach. A subtropical, warm, moonlit beach with a soft coral sand and low waves surging in the clear night light. In the sand there was a single set of footprints and I knew I had to go where they led because I knew who had made them. That is all. 


However, I do remember that there were other islands nearby and that there were many people close to me, but I could sense they were waiting for me to follow the footprints and be led to them. The islands and sea felt friendly, welcoming and bountiful; as if there was food everywhere and I had to but simply reach out to the nearest plant and find food. I knew that I was welcome, respected and loved, and the people I would meet were like me and I would give them the same respect. That was my dream, or reality; what it gives to the understanding of those who hear the Voice and then disappear, I cannot say.


Jon Sumby


 


 

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe
Sponsor
Jim
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:48:07 PM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

Well, without going where you know would go with this all I would say is that we:


1) know nothing about the writer, or


2) the people about which he speaks.


There is no verification of this alleged phenomena for me, so I have to put it on the shelf.


Regarding psychosis, the brain communicates on many different levels. If a pathway becomes blocked for whatever reason the brain WILL find another path; hence hearing voices. These voices can either be helpful or destructive.


I didn't like the picture painted where the person heard the voice, and sort of tranced out. This isn't a good sign.


As far as hearing the distant mumbling type voices, I have heard that myself. But for me, sleeping with a fan on, I could tell that what seemed to be distant voice chatter was really the mixed tonal qualities of the fan's background noise.


As far as the full blown stuff I heard, it was from the crash and brain injury as far as I am concerned, unless it can be proven otherwise.


This guy's story would need a complete research project done from the bottom up. I don't see it as being real without concrete data, although he might.

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


7Vials
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:10:34 PM(UTC)
7Vials


Rank: Advanced Member

Medals: Theorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 664
Points: 1,843
Man
Location: Arizona

I first got the link of the article from UrbanSurvival but there is also talk of it at another forum with some discussion on it. Supposedly it doesn't just happen to vegetarians.


Here's a link if any one is interested:


newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe
Jim
#4 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:37:39 AM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

7Vials wrote:


I first got the link of the article from UrbanSurvival but there is also talk of it at another forum with some discussion on it. Supposedly it doesn't just happen to vegetarians.


Here's a link if any one is interested:


newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php



Yeah the vegetarian thing didn't sound right, but who knows. Let me see what they have to say cuz I like this subject having been "involved."

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


Jim
#5 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 3:03:51 AM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)


 



Wow ... this is a mess. Look, when building a building, one begins by digging a hole for the foundation, not raising a flag on the completed roof. Simple answers first, then, if possible, more complex ideas can be added if SIMPLE is too SIMPLE.




OK ... first observation here boils down to: Where are they trying to find answers? Books? Preferably books with PhD written after the author's name? No. They are going to internet weird places. What happens when this kind of material is thrown into the mixing bowl right off the bat?



Also, for whatever it is worth, some snippets from Half Past Human:



“The old paradigm is dying, once we shift into release language, there is no return.” Life will not be the same after the emotional release. Credit card statements probably won’t be pertinent 6 to 7 months from now. Massive financial collapse and reorganization about to occur.



Data includes imagery "Thundering shock heard across the world" Alarm Release from forces of Control, Knocking knees, fainting and falling over".... "Suppression, Breaking Loose Cascade around the planet"



"Breaking and fracturing control system. Efforts to push back"



Dimensional holes, previously discussed in Coast to Coast AM Radio interview… Dimensional holes will open up and swallow some of the "powers that be" (illuminati, cabal, NWO, etc). 'Powers that be' will become unsettled and start walking with groups of bodyguards. Incident where powers that be and group of bodyguards will just disappear. The Web Bots estimate this will occur in 2009.



"2009: Disappearance language gets more specific. Big changes. Some of the "powers that be" will disappear. "Powers that be" will be out and about with large groups of people with them and they will all disappear.



"There is "stuff" in the model space (web bot) that goes through the idea of "disappearances" beginning next year (relating to extraterrestrials). It's as if an inter-dimensional door opens up and people, including those in power, will vanish without a trace into inter-dimensional doorways."



"It is as though an interdimensional door opens up. Some compelling force occurs, and people are sucked through that door, and the door closes, and there's absolutely no evidence.



"It is as though people disappearing from one footstep and the next...in a way in which the physical-material body doesn't leave a whole lot of what we would think of as forensic clues, so concentrating on that is kind of useless because it's way beyond that level of things...I guess I'd call it dimensional weirdness."






This picture deals with people hearing voices and disapearing. So, psychotic individuals vanish? Did they? Where is the proof? One person says this is true and no one questions it. Maybe they just wandered off and don't want to be found - OR, maybe it never happened?


Then there is the line about an entire culture vanishing. OK, why? Does anyone try to figure it out? No. Let's just quantum leap to some dimensional transfer idea, which is the running context. 


I just find it odd how out 6.7 billion people, a small handful of people find that a small handful of people have "vanished" and this can be translated into a coming global phenomenon. That's a meme in action.


 

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


7Vials
#6 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 3:04:32 AM(UTC)
7Vials


Rank: Advanced Member

Medals: Theorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 664
Points: 1,843
Man
Location: Arizona

Here you go. Here's the last reply at that newearthsummit forum:


Public Notice about the story ’On the Beach’.

On the Beach is a work of fiction. It was, in truth, written after the fever dream described in the story. However, none of the events described in the story occurred or are real. No-one disappeared from Mt Nelson or Glenorchy.



In the end this story was, for me, creative writing in the first-person style epitomised by the fictional, but often seen as real, writing of Dr John Watson, who chronicled the adventures of Sherlock Holmes.



I wrote in this style and I wrote a fictional story. There is nothing wrong with reading a fictional story and having that story mean something to you, but like The Wizard of EarthSea, it is fiction.



Sincerely Yours,

Jon Sumby.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe
Jim
#7 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 3:20:48 AM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

Whoomp - there it is!


 With guest appearance by Mr Doom himself - CHICKEN LITTLE!





"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


Jim
#8 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 11:20:21 AM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

Don't be blue; here's a doom fix.


 


"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


7Vials
#9 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:52:25 PM(UTC)
7Vials


Rank: Advanced Member

Medals: Theorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 664
Points: 1,843
Man
Location: Arizona

I don't need a doom fix but I wonder if humans maybe have a "doom" gene. Or at least a doom genetic memory. It seems to get worse as the population grows. Maybe this has happened before and the only logical thing nature can do when the population gets to high is to wipe a good number of us out. Maybe that's why people seem so doom crazy these days.


The thing with the web bots this last year or so is that what is leaked at UrbanSurvival seems to be less 'predictive linguistics' and more 'formative linguistics'. It's almost as if they are fueling the memes. Maybe that's just the next step in the experiment, who knows.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe
Jim
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:24:37 AM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

 



What we have today is a festering meme inherited from christianity. I think it's funny that references to this have really only plagued the western culture who are the decedents of the cultures who rewrote history.

 




According to Isaac Asimov's Book of Facts (1979), an Assyrian clay tablet dating to approximately 2800 BC was unearthed bearing the words "Our earth is degenerate in these latter days. There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end. Bribery and corruption are common." This is one of the earliest examples of the perception of moral decay in society being interpreted as a sign of the imminent end. 




www.abhota.info/end1.htm




After everything I have been through, and exhausting every piece of information and every approach, it all boils down to this:




1) The subject is real, although I think it's time for a new name to help clarify the picture.




2) ET is not directly involved with calamitous events that happen here.




3) ET seems to only be involved with extinction level events.




If the above is true, then:




4) the life symbol was given to early humans as a sort of "Don't worry, be happy" idea. If TSHTF we will come.




When did this happen? Unknown, but based on the oldest goddess and Orion carvings, somewhere between 30,000 and 40,000 BC. This is not set in stone as there is no way to say for sure.




Again, if the above is true, it could answer the question Why are they here today? This would create the picture:




5) An extinction level event is coming soon, or ...




6) An extinction level event is coming later, and we are so in the hole that we have to be taught from the ground up what is going on. There could also be a "viewing" difference going on here; we see things from OUR perspective, and THEY see things - differently.




Whatever the case, the symbol idea would be key, so it doesn't matter what happens or when.




Now, if ALL of the above is right, it doesn't matter who says what. In fact, this idea would completely negate any "spokesperson" who pops up and has ANYTHING to say regarding doom coming. This scenario takes care of all details regarding humanities position in a doom-like situation.




This picture is furthered by the crop formation we just looked at. The formation is a representation of a Hebrew word whose original idea was that of LIFE (our symbol), and the sense value furthered this idea to one of destruction / ruin (oddly the two ideas incorporated into this picture, life and destruction). The characters used are a stylized version of the much older proto-Sinaitic signs for these Hebrew letters, and the last character is cut in half. It was created on 7 / 7 / 07, which would represent the base number of stars in Orion, and a look at the sky around that time (3:08 AM) shows that Orion is just about to rise with the sun. Time is running out?




That 7 / 7 picture (Gregorian calendar) connects to 6 / 24 (Julian calendar) and John the Baptist, whose day connects to the summer solstice (according to Goro), which connects to Stonehenge, which connects NOT to the rising sun, but to the exact picture the crop formation connects to - the rising of Orion at sunrise, which references the rising of the Orion nebula, the sign of life.




Sooo ...




While everyone runs around like a chicken with their head cut off spouting DOOM, it's possible DOOM ain't coming for a long time. Or, maybe tomorrow. But, it doesn't matter if the above is right.


So if they are fueling the memes, we have a ringside seat to watch the fun.



"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


SUNNY
#11 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:57:15 AM(UTC)
SUNNY


Rank: Advanced Member

Medals: Theorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 860
Points: 2,443

Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)

I think we all would agree here.... that the destruction events that are told and foretold by religions were put there to control the masses.That being said.... there are going to be more major events this we know from our past. Jim I would agree with you on the ET thing as far as them helping only in a world destruction event. I think also that the governments are pushing the meme thing to try to keep the masses in line. We are starting to come out from underneath the ether sota speak. 7Vials I like the idea of the doom gene...it's like a woman who hasn't had a baby by the age of 30. They seem to go.....I don't know...koo koo. So for us humans 3600 years have past and we're going were is it....(the doom). As far as when....which is what we're trying to find out......hummmm......

Changes come from the Sun
Jim
#12 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:48:34 PM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

Religion, yes - control. But there was always, lurking in plain sight, people who tried to preserve the truth (at least until they vanished). I always loved this selection from the Visuddhi-Magga ... correcting the priests?


"There are four immensities, O priests, to a world-cycle. And what are the four? The destruction, continuance of destruction, renovation, and continuance of renovation."


Now from the cycle-destroying great cloud to the termination of the conflagration constitutes one immensity, and is called the period of destruction.



And from the cycle-destroying conflagration to the salutary great rains filling one hundred thousand times ten million worlds is the second immensity, and is called the continuance of destruction.



From the salutary great rains to the appearing of the sun and moon is the third immensity, and is called the period of renovation.



From the appearing of the sun and moon to the cycle-destroying great cloud is the fourth immensity, and is called the continuance of renovation.



These four immensities form one great world-cycle.


------


For when it is known that after the lapse of a hundred thousand years the cycle is to be renewed, the gods called Loka-byûhas, inhabitants of a heaven of sensual pleasure, wander about through the world, with hair let down and flying in the wind, weeping and wiping away their tears with their hands, and with their clothes red and in great disorder. And thus they make their announcement:



"Sirs, after the lapse of a hundred thousand years the cycle is to be renewed: this world will be destroyed; also the mighty ocean will dry up; and this broad earth, and Sineru, the monarch of the mountains, will be burnt up and destroyed; up to the Brahma-world will the destruction of the world extend. Therefore, sirs, cultivate friendliness; cultivate compassion, joy, and indifference; wait on your mothers; wait on your fathers; and honor your elders among your kinsfolk."






"Paul" was another person who knew, but the church took his words and made the control you talked about. He talked about an extinction level event, and the arrival of a multiplicity of beings coming from the sky. He was wrong, but yet it seems we can salvage his message if we read beyond the religious overtones that were added.


----------


 


The only reason tied to this that I can see that would explain why the "govt" is doing this is because they are not wanted. Fulcanelli mentioned the death of most of the elite in the event that was coming. He also mentioned hiding in a safe place. Whatever came out from whatever original source encapsulated this entire picture. We could say that our present "treatment" is like a temper tantrum; we ain't going, we will make EVERYBODY miserable. 


Now I can't prove that, it's a projection based on the picture presented. Maybe, if true, they now have nice cozy underground cities to retire to. Who knows.


----


I can't see predictable cycles being a part of this; TSHTF when TSHTF. It seems to be tied to the arrival. This is why I believe the people who created Egypt and Sumer, created it because they lost it - no arrival, the galactic center was there in the sky, the climate was rapidly changing, WTF was going on?

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


simple simon
#13 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:31:22 AM(UTC)
simple simon


Rank: Advanced Member

Medals: Theorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member
Joined: 2/19/2008(UTC)
Posts: 943
Points: 1,786

Thanks: 22 times

 


I've seen this voice talked about on earthboppin. Dunno what it is though... All I can say is that I am not hearing it. I'm not sure if I want to, either.



I agree that the webbots could well be putting information and ideas in to our heads, erm, which comes first  - chicken or egg? / disappearances or information about disappearances?



Simon  


 

Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
Jim
#14 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:05:05 AM(UTC)
Jim


Rank: Administration

Medals: Theorasonic Gold: 3500+ PostsTheorasonic Bronze: 500+ Posts

Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration
Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC)
Posts: 4,116
Points: 5,849
Man
Location: Texas

Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)

simple simon wrote:


 


I've seen this voice talked about on earthboppin. Dunno what it is though... All I can say is that I am not hearing it. I'm not sure if I want to, either.



I agree that the webbots could well be putting information and ideas in to our heads, erm, which comes first  - chicken or egg? / disappearances or information about disappearances?



Simon   



The ideas being tossed around today must conform to history, not the other way around. For me anything that does not connect in some way to the past - is tossed out. When people talk about voices and want answers, psychosis HAS to be part of the question line. Every single person I have ever talked to who has heard voices has had a head trauma at least. Voices are a possible secondary effect if the trauma is great enough, or, if there is a history of head bangs.


It's my personal opinion that whomever up there is NOT just going to pick a Joe Blow off the street and give them the answers to everything. There is no discipline, no study, no respect for the information because it wasn't earned; there's nothing. It would be a hand out and that, as far as I am concerned, doesn't work. We see this every day with children. There is no insight - they can't be trusted with serious stuff.


 

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF 1.9.5.5 | YAF © 2003-2011, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.844 seconds.