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7Vials
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:35:59 PM(UTC)
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What are you opinions of this?


www.doomdaily.com/2009/n...f-government-conspiracy/

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:42:19 PM(UTC)
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Nibiru was started by Sitchin - Sitchin was proven wrong by REAL scholars - end of story lol.


www.michaelsheiser.com/nibirupage.htm

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

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#3 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:03:20 AM(UTC)
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Jim wrote:


7Vials wrote:


Nibiru was started by Sitchin - Sitchin was proven wrong by REAL scholars - end of story lol.


www.michaelsheiser.com/nibirupage.htm



I just love those words.....NOT..........."It's a never ending story" the day you start closing your mind to things is the day you become no better then the rest.I understand puting all your beliefs in a pile and walking away.That dosen't mean close your mind and not look.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:56:20 AM(UTC)
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This isn't a case of closing one's mind. Mike Heiser is what Sitchin would like to be - and isn't. When a topic is defined by the experts in the field, it literally is end of story. Read that link?


I have an M.A. and Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible and Ancient Semitic Languages from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.  My dissertation was entitled, "The Divine Council in Late Canonical and Non-Canonical Second Temple Jewish Literature" (English translation: the dissertation dealt with the presence of a pantheon in the Hebrew Bible and the binitarian nature of ancient Israelite religion and Judaism, a backdrop for the the belief in the deity of Christ in the New Testament).  Before going to the UW-Madison, I also earned an M.A. in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania (major fields, Ancient Syria-Palestine and Egyptology).  I can do translation work in roughly a dozen ancient languages, among them Biblical Hebrew, Biblical Greek, Aramaic, Syriac, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Phoenician, Moabite, Ugaritic cuneiform, and Klingon (just kidding there).  I have also studied Akkadian and Sumerian independently.  All that but I have difficulty understanding my wife (she'd vouch for that).

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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#5 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:31:59 PM(UTC)
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Actually, Sitchin perverted the term Nibiru, he didn't start it; other then for using it as another name for Wormwood or Planet X - both of which I think predate Sitchin. Nibiru is Marduk's star, it is Jupiter, Zeus, Thor, THURSDAY. Personally, I don't care about Sitchin or whether or not he is right or wrong.


I was wondering more about the removal of a location from Google Earth's sky view and the possibility of a second star in our solar system since the astronomers claim that unary star systems are rare amongst our galaxy. It also seems that one of the commentors is tracking the object, which would obviously be at another location now. Does anybody else out there have a good telescope? Also, the removed area tends to be quite close to Orion. With all the claims of Google removing things from the view of Earth; why not space too. Wonder what was really there. Or it's just a way to distract from the real secrets.


The bad astronomy response to the idea that modern science hasn't yet discovered it is along the lines of science calling unknow DNA "junk". It's fueled be egotism. I'm sure Jim has run into plently of egotism in his pursuits.


Probably not related but still curious (old news now): www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html other then TPTB don't seem to want the sheep looking up these days.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:59:43 PM(UTC)
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7Vials wrote:


Actually, Sitchin perverted the term Nibiru, he didn't start it; other then for using it as another name for Wormwood or Planet X - both of which I think predate Sitchin. Nibiru is Marduk's star, it is Jupiter, Zeus, Thor, THURSDAY. Personally, I don't care about Sitchin or whether or not he is right or wrong.


 


I do because we lost a sh*t load of information when the rewrite happened. Sitchin may have stumbled onto something, as it turned out he didn't, but if he had ...


If Planet X predated Sitchin, what was it based on? I never heard about it.


 




Probably not related but still curious (old news now): www.space.com/news/090610-military-fireballs.html other then TPTB don't seem to want the sheep looking up these days.


 


Yeah I read that too. I dunno, why does everything seem to fit the "It is coming" pattern?


"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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#7 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:32:50 PM(UTC)
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"In 1894, with the help of William Pickering, Percival Lowell, a wealthy Bostonian aristocrat, founded the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona. In 1906, convinced he could resolve the conundrum of Uranus's orbit, he began an extensive project to search for a trans-Neptunian planet, which he named Planet X." (from wikipedia). Sitchin was born in 1922.


But, of course, this Planet X wasn't supposed to be our destroyer.


"X" refers to an unknown. Thus the name Planet X, which doesn't necesarilly have to be a planet. Like Wormwood referred to as a star. Or maybe the Blue Star Kachina. It could just be the idea of some big asteroid which statistically Earth will be hit by again someday.


Mass extinction events seem to occur every 30 million years but that would be to long for the orbit of any object (I read something accounting that to crossing the galactic plane which occurs every ~30 million years, which we are crossing now). Modern humans have been around 200,000 years. I wonder how many great civilizations could have come and gone in that time that we know nothing about, since that without humans show hypothesized that pretty much all traces of our existence would be gone in 10,000 years. Maybe there is a cyclical 30,000 or so year destruction that comes and the survivors blame it on there wicked ways and try to change.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:02:10 PM(UTC)
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7Vials wrote:


"In 1894, with the help of William Pickering, Percival Lowell, a wealthy Bostonian aristocrat, founded the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona. In 1906, convinced he could resolve the conundrum of Uranus's orbit, he began an extensive project to search for a trans-Neptunian planet, which he named Planet X." (from wikipedia). Sitchin was born in 1922. 


It could have been a long time lingering / day residue idea.


But, of course, this Planet X wasn't supposed to be our destroyer.


"X" refers to an unknown. Thus the name Planet X, which doesn't necesarilly have to be a planet. Like Wormwood referred to as a star. Or maybe the Blue Star Kachina. It could just be the idea of some big asteroid which statistically Earth will be hit by again someday.


Mass extinction events seem to occur every 30 million years but that would be to long for the orbit of any object (I read something accounting that to crossing the galactic plane which occurs every ~30 million years, which we are crossing now).


Yeah, read that too - don't recall the timeframe.


 


Modern humans have been around 200,000 years. I wonder how many great civilizations could have come and gone in that time that we know nothing about, since that without humans show hypothesized that pretty much all traces of our existence would be gone in 10,000 years. Maybe there is a cyclical 30,000 or so year destruction that comes and the survivors blame it on there wicked ways and try to change.


In all honesty I think we knew what was going on, at least until the rewrite and everything went to hell in a handbasket. The picture would have been simple; if they come, somekind of doom was coming. If the picture is right, the goddess would represent the nebula and finally explain the weight picture; but we had no details 40,000 years ago. It wasn't until around 9000 BC that it seemed we got a little more information.


Doom doesn't come on a schedule - they just show up - like today.


"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell


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