As Col Alexander said


"I argue that, not only are we not solving the problems yet, we're not even asking the right questions, because we approach this wrong.

I suspect that consciousness is a piece of the puzzle."

http://www.aolnews.com/2...but-denies-government-c/

Now lets looks at a quote from Ray Kurzweil




"What this means is that if the trends of the past 50 years continue, in 17 years’ time we will be able to upload an electronic replica of your mind on to a machine.


And if the trends hold fast beyond that, Kurzweil adds, by 2045 we will have a computer that is powerful enough to host every one of the eight billion minds on Earth. "





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co....uters.html#ixzz1m6wNCk1B


Now this raises an interesting line of thought.
If in the model we see playing out before our very eyes here, is that the technology to become transbiological is going to become real before we develop interstellar travel.
Is it not likely any species advanced enough to travel here would have done the same ?

Even if the visitors are time travelling humans, given current trends they will also have become transbiological first

Trying to answer the UFO question from a pov of a native bioform, such as we now are, is doomed to fail.

Its is more than likely that these entitys have already perfected this technology, would have done so, as we will before FTL travel.
Its actually a very good way to deal with the distances, upload your conciousness into a brainframe computer on a ship, and when you get to your destination literally print yourself a new bioplatform to download yourself into should you need one

http://abcnews.go.com/Te...ry?id=1603783&page=1

Organ printing is just the baby step, this tech can print every component, print an entire bioplatform, for uploaded conciousness to transfer too.

Right now we are like tadpoles trying to describe the nature of frogs, the connection is real, but the primative biological reality we now have is unable to grasp the next level.

It would explain the elusive nature of the UFO enigma, until we develop and use the technology to bring us to post biological parity with them, there is no point in contact.
Until we ourselves are comfortable with a post biological reality in our own frame of human reference, we will likely freak out at the "zombies from beta reticulae", the soul stealing demons from space.

One species conciousness upload to a engineered platform, is anothers soul snatching nightmare.

If you are following Streibers journey you will know he thinks the "dead" are part of this equation.
I think hes right, but i think the very concept of death is a human technological limitation, and one we will soon put behind us......as "they" have

For all our technological toys, we are still no different to every other biological template on the planet, at one level we are no more than any other biological animal on earth, becomeing transbiological or post biological will take us up a notch from the other biological models the earth over. Thats the difference between us and them, No matter how smart we get, no matter how many tools in our kit, we will still be "closer" to a chimp than we are to them, until we too become post biological.

At which point we will have graduated, taken the next step up the ladder and can join the other dominant prolific expressions of sentience that the universe teems with, post biological sentience

But again when you use the term "saving" you do so in a linear time biological reality context, im suggesting the saving is done at a whole new level of reality.

Even the superwave discussion, takes place at a linear time biological existance pov.

I'm suggesting they dont operate at that level, its only the fact that we do that makes us assume they do too.

As i said kurzweil and many others are predicting a post biological reality for our species by the year 2050.

If "they" are human time travelers, then they will be post biological already and operating outside the linear time stream.

If they are another species from another location, by our own model they will be post biological in nature.

All of the questions and answers we currently have are from the level below, that of biological organic intellect, thus as alexander says we are asking the wrong questions, questions immersed in our subjective biological reality, and this would naturally give us the wrong answers.

Its like a fish trying to understand the modus operandi of a bird

I contend that overthinking the topic is essential if you want to step free of the simplistic explanations that have taken us nowhere thus far