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Jim

#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:02:37 AM(UTC)

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I have been thinking about starting a thread like this for awhile, because the stupidity level regarding the people of this planet is growing exponentially - I think it's cell phone damage, but what do I know.

Gunther von Hagens, a German anatomist famous for his controversial Body World exhibition displaying plastinated bodies, is now selling human and animal body parts -- even as jewelry -- online.

The move has provoked strong condemnation from German churches which accuse him of degrading human dignity.

A whole body from www.plastination-products.com costs about 70,000 euros ($97,400), torsos start at 55,644 euros and heads come in at around 22,000 euros each -- excluding postage and packaging.

For those on a tighter budget, transparent body slices are available from 115 euros each.

us.mobile.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE69L3G420101022

"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet

Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw

… many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger

Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon

"How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell

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Jim		#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:10:05 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Imagine looking down on the planet from space, and seeing this. "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:28:51 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		While some of this picture encompasses acts of plain stupidity, some is very serious. Again, imagine yourself looking at a planet from space, and seeing this going on. There is a video too. uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20101103/twl-iran-s-stoning-woman-no-final-verdic-3fd0ae9.html "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:03:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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simple simon		#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2010 12:41:24 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Medals: Groups: Member Joined: 2/19/2008(UTC) Posts: 943 Points: 1,786 Thanks: 22 times		In the present era if it can be imagined, no matter how lurid, it WILL be done - simply because it can. Alas, technical ability and real cleverness (ie: of the morally encompassing type) are not mutally interdependant. Simon Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
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Jim		#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:17:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Yes, but what has been running through my head of late is what that view looks like to outsiders ... up there. This brings into view (in my head anyway) THEIR perspective of life (which we know absolutely nothing about) and how WE fit into THEIR view of life. The idea is, there has to be a reason for the distance they keep (even as far as my experiences for years) and it's more than just thinking we'd be afraid of them; there are ways around the fear picture. "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#7 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:48:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		"...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Clonus		#8 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2010 5:37:21 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Groups: Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 605 Points: 100,101		Cool thread. I thought about this from time to time. I suppose the assumption here is that there really are aliens looking down at us? Yes? ok. So, I would assume we understand what they think or at least think we know. This is a really deep subject isn't it. It's not a matter of saying "look how stupid we humans are" therefore they'r scared to drop in. If that were truly the case would it even make sense to waste perhaps decades or even centries looking and wonder what the hell we're doing? maybe, perhaps we're Live TV on some remote planet? Let "assume" these things exists and they're watching us for scientific reasons? Sheesh, this "what if" could go on forever. I suppose it's an interesting topic but how could we start with a real question? Let's start with "Why are we being visited"? and from there what evidence would we have to support anything? Holy crap what a can of worms Jim!
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Jim		#9 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 6:11:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Clonus wrote: I suppose the assumption here is that there really are aliens looking down at us? Yes? ok. So, I would assume we understand what they think or at least think we know. That last statement would be the crux of everything, and that "thinking" involves us - on SOME level we do not understand, hence the distance factor. This picture is not unlike you and me relating to lower life forms who have no clue about OUR view of life, hence in some cases they run away, in some cases they cautiously trust, in some cases they want to trust, but, keep their distance just in case. This is a really deep subject isn't it. It's not a matter of saying "look how stupid we humans are" therefore they'r scared to drop in. If that were truly the case would it even make sense to waste perhaps decades or even centries looking and wonder what the hell we're doing? maybe, perhaps we're Live TV on some remote planet? We tend to get too hard on ourselves with this ... as far as I am concerned we "lost" the information due to a gross error in judgment 5000+ years ago, where in ONE SPOT on the globe everything was rewritten. WE screwed this up - are we smart enough to fix the problem? We certainly have been given enough time. Let "assume" these things exists and they're watching us for scientific reasons? Sheesh, this "what if" could go on forever. No, not "scientific" reasons. When I came to final conclusions a year ago, the picture said that they do not show up unless SOMETHING was coming, and the gene-pool was in trouble ... other than that they seem to leave us alone and let us evolve and learn. It's sort of akin to something that resembles "respect for your space." This was the case as far back as I can go, which was the 40,000 BC event. Something happened to us regarding the Campi Flegrei event, and it seems to have been global. The simplest answer is a mirror neuron event, where we absorbed the simple fact that there was a "higher" form of life to be lived, and we advanced ours. We took a big jump 10,000 years ago, again attached to a destruction event - only this time there was building involved. On top of this there is the picture that says: If you don't want our help, that's fine. The Clovis culture disappeared in the last event, and the Clovis culture had no connection to the Goddess carvings ... they didn't know "salvation" from doom was available. They may have been given an on the spot choice, but it seems they declined the offer as they had no idea what was going on. I suppose it's an interesting topic but how could we start with a real question? Let's start with "Why are we being visited"? and from there what evidence would we have to support anything? Holy crap what a can of worms Jim! It isn't as bad as it seems. History shows a picture, and granted they didn't keep records, but, a picture is there. If we take that picture and place it over today then the only thing I can say is that "something" is coming that is going to effect the gene-pool. They "entered" our picture at a certain point (The Battle of LA) and thanks to the ruling faction here we are being kept in the dark. We are also being put in a position where we have to come to conclusions on our own. Why? I don't know what going on in "their" heads, so, I can't say. It may be a simple case of we won't shut up long enough to listen. All I know is that whenever this is "over" - so too will be the "reign of violence." We are not responsible for details - just pick a team and wait. As far as this thread goes, the picture is that on one side - people are trying to understand, while on the other side ... well, makes a good tv show LOL ... www.youtube.com/watch "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#10 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2010 5:45:48 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		And now the news lol ... www.youtube.com/watch "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#11 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:04:17 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		This one is over the top ... Lee Harvey Oswald's coffin auctioned for $87,000 LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - An anonymous buyer has paid more than $87,000 to purchase the wood coffin that held Lee Harvey Oswald's body for 20 years, an auction house said on Friday. news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//101218/photos_ts_afp/963191894044db72e875c29751029d7c/#photoViewer=/101218/ids_photos_ts/r1484326753.jpg "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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simple simon		#12 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:38:38 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Medals: Groups: Member Joined: 2/19/2008(UTC) Posts: 943 Points: 1,786 Thanks: 22 times		Jim, I bet that the auction house see the finer point in this - especially when they take their fee!!!!!! LOL Simon Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
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Jim		#13 Posted : Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:57:47 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		simple simon wrote: Jim, I bet that the auction house see the finer point in this - especially when they take their fee!!!!!! I don't care. It's the point that people would even do something like that; it's just sick. "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#14 Posted : Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:34:00 AM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Are they serious? Disclose.tv - rare alien Video "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Mechwarrior		#16 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 11:23:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Member Joined: 12/26/2010(UTC) Posts: 111 Points: -249 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)		I saw this today and it struck a chord Quote: It is the most basic responsibility for every civilization to leave their world in a better condition than that which they inherited from their forbears. http://globalresearch.ca...context=va&aid=22514 Mankind still has a long way to go before he gets invited to any galatic picnics "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion however satisfying and reassuring." Carl Sagan
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Jim		#19 Posted : Monday, December 27, 2010 4:32:12 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		Mechwarrior wrote: Mankind still has a long way to go before he gets invited to any galatic picnics We chose to believe that everything in creation is destined to our service; and when we enquire of some philosophers the use of such a prodigious number of fixed stars, of which a smaller proportion would have been sufficient for all the offices they appear to perform; they coolly answer, they were made to gratify our sight. *Bernard le Bovier de Fontenelle* "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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simple simon		#17 Posted : Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:46:06 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Medals: Groups: Member Joined: 2/19/2008(UTC) Posts: 943 Points: 1,786 Thanks: 22 times		Mechwarrior wrote: I saw this today and it struck a chord Quote: It is the most basic responsibility for every civilization to leave their world in a better condition than that which they inherited from their forbears. http://globalresearch.ca...context=va&aid=22514 Mankind still has a long way to go before he gets invited to any galatic picnics Of course they are right - but at present the power mongers dont want us to follow that creed. They WANT us to be seen in a negative light, as unworthy of having this gem of a planet as a place of abode. Why? well they want it for themselves, but cannot just walk in and steal it - because there is an imminent 'review' (bit like a 'stock taking' and follow-on 'tidyup') by some kind of superconscious awareness entity and if they nick it from us then they will be booted off / punished. But, by getting us humans to desecrate the place they hope that we will be deemed unworthy and booted off - with them then being able to legitimately claim the now empty planet for themselves. Humans have freewill and therefore able to choose whether to do good / the right things or otherwise. But the negative non-physicals are clever and know how to influence people to do the wrong things without actually stopping that freewill.... One way to acheive this has been peverting belief systems and creating a scenario whereby humans are always fighting each other in the name of religion - rather than follwing religious teachings for solely positive, life-enhancing purposes. Then we have money and an eccomomic system which keeps most people too busy focussing on mere survival to really be interested in anything else. People like me are thought of as being 'mad' for even giving time, thought and energy to ideas such as I've mooted above. This too is a control mechanism. Simon Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
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simple simon		#20 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:31:30 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Medals: Groups: Member Joined: 2/19/2008(UTC) Posts: 943 Points: 1,786 Thanks: 22 times		I've recently seen it said that the 'good' ET's wont land because they dont want to inflame the negatives. The scenario seems to be somewhat akin to WW2 when Germany invaded Europe and used Europe as hostages / human shields against us. Except that whilst we did bomb targets in occupied Europe (albeit because we wanted to stop the Germans, not because we wanted to harm the local people) the positively aligned ET's wont even do that. Simon Citizen of Planet Earth, living in the British Isles.
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Jim		#18 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:08:06 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		simple simon wrote: Mechwarrior wrote: I saw this today and it struck a chord Quote: It is the most basic responsibility for every civilization to leave their world in a better condition than that which they inherited from their forbears. http://globalresearch.ca...context=va&aid=22514 Mankind still has a long way to go before he gets invited to any galatic picnics Of course they are right - but at present the power mongers dont want us to follow that creed. They WANT us to be seen in a negative light, as unworthy of having this gem of a planet as a place of abode. Why? well they want it for themselves, but cannot just walk in and steal it - because there is an imminent 'review' (bit like a 'stock taking' and follow-on 'tidyup') by some kind of superconscious awareness entity and if they nick it from us then they will be booted off / punished. But, by getting us humans to desecrate the place they hope that we will be deemed unworthy and booted off - with them then being able to legitimately claim the now empty planet for themselves. Humans have freewill and therefore able to choose whether to do good / the right things or otherwise. But the negative non-physicals are clever and know how to influence people to do the wrong things without actually stopping that freewill.... One way to acheive this has been peverting belief systems and creating a scenario whereby humans are always fighting each other in the name of religion - rather than follwing religious teachings for solely positive, life-enhancing purposes. Then we have money and an eccomomic system which keeps most people too busy focussing on mere survival to really be interested in anything else. People like me are thought of as being 'mad' for even giving time, thought and energy to ideas such as I've mooted above. This too is a control mechanism. Simon Why do explanations always have to be so complicated? Why can't we just admit that we screwed everything up, and what is going on is happening because we left the door open and the psychopaths walked in. Here's the bottom line ... ET only shows up when something is about to go very wrong. Were it not for this picture, we would simply get mowed over by the Powers the Be just like ever generation has for centuries since this crap started. "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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Jim		#21 Posted : Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:11:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Administration Medals: Groups: Member, Moderator, Administration Joined: 2/18/2008(UTC) Posts: 4,116 Points: 5,849 Location: Texas Was thanked: 18 time(s) in 18 post(s)		simple simon wrote: I've recently seen it said that the 'good' ET's wont land because they dont want to inflame the negatives. Doesn't that presupposed that "the negatives" even exist? This is why we will fail as a people - groundless explanations have taken over logical thought. "...men are not so far from the truth as they generally believe. Their greatest error is in searching for it where it is not, and in attaching it to forms; whereas, they ought, on the contrary, to avoid form in order to dwell upon the essence." Fabre D'Olivet Rather than STOP and say, 'Woops! I'm headed in the wrong direction,’ we tend to place a premium on projecting a consistent image of ourselves and try to rationalize our initial decision despite increasing evidence suggesting we ought to do the contrary. B M Staw … many people today don't want honest answers insofar as 'honest’ means 'unpleasant’ or 'disturbing.’ They want a soft answer that turneth away anxiety. — Louis Kronenberger Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true. — Francis Bacon "How to teach again, however, what has been taught correctly and incorrectly learned a thousand thousand times, throughout the millenniums of mankind's prudent folly." ... "The easy thing is to commit the whole community to the devil and retire again into the heavenly rock dwelling, close the door, and make it fast." — Joseph Campbell
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